For the first time (but probably not the last), Raf & Charlie are both excited about the same game! After a brief discussion of recent plays, Sandy Petersen of Cthulhu Wars fame stops by to talk about his games and the rise of big expensive "Premium Games". We talk about their place in gaming the role of Kickstarter in bringing them to life. Raf also gives his brief impression of BattleBin, a monthly mystery box product.